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New Post 11/21/2007 8:00 AM
User is offline Mark Wehrwein
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Hit on receiver before pass is thrown  (United States)

With 3rd and long, QB drops for a pass before he can release the ball the receiver goes out for the pass and while he goes across the middle the safety lays him out.

Is there a foul?  Why or why not?

 
New Post 11/21/2007 9:00 AM
User is offline jmeyer43
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Re: Hit on receiver before pass is thrown  (United States)

If the covering official judges that the receiver is no longer a potential blocker, it's a foul for either holding or, if a pass is thrown during the play, illegal use of the hands *, either one carrying a penalty of 10 yards from the basic spot and replay the down.  If the safety left his feet to make the hit, I'd probably call a personal foul for unnecessary roughness for safety reasons because the player being hit is in a situation where he would normally expect to not be hit.  And of course I would call it spearing, helmet contact, or pulling/twisting the facemask if it was.

* Granted the illegal contact may not be with the hands and it may not be holding, but until the rules committee gives us something better to call it, that's what we've got.  Changing the rule to call it illegal contact would probably confuse coaches because of the NFL's 5-yard zone, but as long as it's illegal and we call it, that's what counts.

 
New Post 11/21/2007 9:38 AM
User is offline TD
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Re: Hit on receiver before pass is thrown  (United States)

What is your definition of "Layed him out" ?

If the pass wasn't thrown, there cannot be pass interference.

Who is to say that receiver wasn't running across the middle to lay out a linebacker whose eyes are trained on the QB, and was about to be blind-sided by a "Crackback"?

 In that case, the hit by the safety would be perfectly legal.

 Generally speaking, this is football and if a guy gets his clock-cleaned legally, that is part of the game. Un-necessary roughness however needs to be punished, so you need to  be the judge on that.

 

 

Wasn't the receiver aware of the safety barreling in on him?

 
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